tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post6661957693845164881..comments2024-01-28T03:44:18.188-05:00Comments on Boyd and Silva Martin: Position Available: Working Student for Boyd MartinLisa Thomashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14314216320578688583noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-28312884690635098012012-10-04T22:42:26.646-04:002012-10-04T22:42:26.646-04:00I know this post is old, but wow! What a great opp...I know this post is old, but wow! What a great opportunity. Maybe when I'm a little older, and more financially independent, I can get in on it(: Christian Burnettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-65732746755942274592012-04-29T10:42:58.542-04:002012-04-29T10:42:58.542-04:00I know this post was a while ago, but man, if I we...I know this post was a while ago, but man, if I weren't in school, I totally would've signed up! I drive a mini-van, so I bet I could've slept in there, and if I could pick up a small night job as a waitress or something just to cover food expenses, plus I've still got some money saved up from my job last summer...SO would have been there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-6937043478575364322011-12-28T12:41:48.576-05:002011-12-28T12:41:48.576-05:00looking strictly at the numbers....
Lessons with B...looking strictly at the numbers....<br />Lessons with Boyd = $100/ea<br />So if you worked 10hrs/day @ $10/hr (very generous) = $100/day. <br />Thus 1 day worked = 1 lesson. <br />The position is a good deal!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-57991484842202011342011-12-28T12:09:40.387-05:002011-12-28T12:09:40.387-05:00Personally, I think it is a GREAT opportunity! Go ...Personally, I think it is a GREAT opportunity! Go Boyd & your new working student!! Coming from a 30 something adult, this is a situation I would defiantly sign up for. At my age, I have NO desire to live with young ones & prefer my own housing. : )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-55210344342035561122011-12-14T17:49:17.179-05:002011-12-14T17:49:17.179-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-40366592881478038762011-11-30T02:28:23.356-05:002011-11-30T02:28:23.356-05:00I cannot believe that anyone would expect their wo...I cannot believe that anyone would expect their working pupikl to work 7 days a week and then have to pay for their accomodation as well. If it is anything like most places you are unlikely to receive 100's of dollars worth of lessons a week, most likely won't have time to give your own horse the work it needs. What is being offered is slave labour!<br />I've been a working pupil in my younger days in 2 different Olympic level yards and received tuition, accomodation and food, worked 5½days a week with a weekend off each month. I also received pocket money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-36457367598101586342011-11-26T09:51:25.919-05:002011-11-26T09:51:25.919-05:00U.S. Labor Laws need to be reworked. Mimimum wage...U.S. Labor Laws need to be reworked. Mimimum wage and worker's compensation have been a costly item for any business here in the U.S. for a long time. Whenever the government gets involved the costs to do business goes up dramatically and whoever the government is trying to benefit in the end actuallys hurts them. It used to be that you could hire a student to do a job that they could learn from and make extra money for themselves while still living at home. Now with the cost of minimum wage you can no longer hire these students (for whatevenr business you run) and more often than not they have a lot of idle time on their hands. A lot of young people would love to have opportunties to work and learn and the government makes it impossible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-10856139459421347162011-11-26T00:48:26.963-05:002011-11-26T00:48:26.963-05:00A great opportunity, but sadly most of these "...A great opportunity, but sadly most of these "working student" positions are illegal under U.S. labor laws. (no minimum wage, no workers compensation, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-77359246697733385992011-11-25T14:40:11.686-05:002011-11-25T14:40:11.686-05:00Please Boyd, do not give up your openness. Take t...Please Boyd, do not give up your openness. Take this blog exchange with the same calmness and strength that you took the criticisms of your opinions after the 2010 WEG. <br /><br />Those of us who faithfully follow you depend on your fresh, heart-felt sincerity, as an antidote to the abundance of cynicism in our sport. <br /><br />Congratulations to your beautiful and amazing wife and her young horse on being named to the USEF developing list.<br /><br />May next year be healthy and peaceful for both of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-86134336988625834052011-11-25T00:38:50.178-05:002011-11-25T00:38:50.178-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.ShagBellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-42682221314813125112011-11-24T22:17:19.683-05:002011-11-24T22:17:19.683-05:00You should just remove all the negativity and star...You should just remove all the negativity and start over. Leave out specific details and tell seriously interested people to send email for details.<br />Happy Thanksgiving!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-79796041720381100162011-11-24T20:43:46.830-05:002011-11-24T20:43:46.830-05:00As one of the moderators of this blog, I am going ...As one of the moderators of this blog, I am going to ask anyone interested in applying for the position to send your resume & related riding experience to Lindsey Taylor. <br /><br />lindseyktaylor@yahoo.com. <br /><br />Please understand that we only want truly interested and qualified people to apply for the position, and for everyone to refrain from flooding her inbox with inappropriate questions or remarks. <br /><br />Once we receive your resume & listed riding experience, we will then be in touch. <br /><br />I'm going to respectfully ask for everyone to enjoy their Thanksgiving & to move on from this debate without further comment.<br /><br />Happy Thanksgiving!Lisa Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14314216320578688583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-20354345087832347902011-11-24T14:41:49.374-05:002011-11-24T14:41:49.374-05:00Correct me if I'm wrong, Boyd, but I don't...Correct me if I'm wrong, Boyd, but I don't think this facility is owned by the Martins... I don't think the board rates or anything of the sort are really under Boyd's control... And he did say he's paying $15/day of YOUR board... If that's not him helping you then I don't know what you guys need from him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-20001719123781806132011-11-24T14:32:10.875-05:002011-11-24T14:32:10.875-05:00Holy $hit....kids today! Nothing is free in life ...Holy $hit....kids today! Nothing is free in life people....you have to WORK! Imagine that!! Boyd has worked hard to get to where he is and is running a business. What a bunch of entitled, lazy whiners!! What a common excuse it appears to be to blame everything on not having enough $$ handed to you....and to take away from others success because they may have had the privilege of some money behind their endeavors. Grow up or shut up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-87806212562359559782011-11-24T14:14:44.380-05:002011-11-24T14:14:44.380-05:00"Big Fan", that is an exceptionally gene..."Big Fan", that is an exceptionally generous offer. How appropriate to read that on Thanksgiving. Thank you! I would love to discuss it with you. My email is Sara.E.Siegel@gmail.com. <br /><br />Just an FYI, there is now a thread on the Chronicle of the Horse eventing forums on this topic. This is obviously an issue many have grappled with and with so many varying perspectives, it makes for an interesting and passionate dialogue; I encourage everyone to move the discussion there :-) <br />http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330271Sara Siegelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-19746832944299378462011-11-24T14:06:43.839-05:002011-11-24T14:06:43.839-05:00Wow people. I don't think this was meant to tu...Wow people. I don't think this was meant to turn into a giant discussion of your opinions on working student positions. If you don't like it, you don't have to apply, but don't go hating on people who are giving out a great opportunity for some lucky person to further their riding education. We all know the world of horses isn't cheap. I'm not trying to be rude, but if this position won't work for you, keep your thoughts to yourself and find one that does..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-32737333809749461152011-11-24T13:35:42.114-05:002011-11-24T13:35:42.114-05:00While I accept the fact that this job isn't fo...While I accept the fact that this job isn't for everyone and that the Martins are allowing one very lucky person the chance to absorb some fantastic, useful knowledge, I feel obliged to point out that to call this opportunity a "working student position" is a gross misnomer for several reasons, namely the requirement that the "working student" pays for this opportunity. Perhaps it would have been more accurate and less flame-inducing on your part, Dear Martins, to have called this an opportunity for reduced training board for the right person rather than a working student position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-81993024005568341262011-11-24T13:34:51.557-05:002011-11-24T13:34:51.557-05:00is there an age restriction, Boyd?is there an age restriction, Boyd?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-38696758315386426702011-11-24T13:05:20.617-05:002011-11-24T13:05:20.617-05:00I applaud Boyd for being up front about his expect...I applaud Boyd for being up front about his expectations for this job. If you don't like it- don't apply. That's better than finding out when you get there all the hard things like no day off and long hours! These long hours and no day off is the horse business at the upper/professional level! There is valuable knowledge in everyday care whether you realize it or not. <br />I worked for Buck for a month and paid $35/day for all the same work. (I did however get a roof over my air mattress I bought at wal-mart). I still draw on my experiences there and things I learned. Look at like a short term slave drive to learn as much as possible and of course you are paying for it, your instructor is worth more than any Professor you'll ever meet in college! This is the REAL Learn By Doing!! (and I went to Cal Poly who's motto is Learn by doing!) At school I had classes where we spent entire sessions picking fruit or other manual labor that at the time you wonder why your working for free!? Because working is real and you learn from applying your muscles to brain power!<br />Seems to me that he is offering this as an intro to the job where if he likes you, there is room to renegotiate the deal, but otherwise take what you learned and move on. <br />That being said, he could probably stand to give someone a day off and some space in the tack room to sleep (Buck did do that). The month I spent at Bucks was miserable- hard work and gross conditions. But I learned a lot, got to know Buck, and found it worthwhile. I'm sure Boyd has a lot to offer to someone who's willing to work hard and look for the positive things in daily hard work/labor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-70003807041471324512011-11-24T12:18:17.898-05:002011-11-24T12:18:17.898-05:00After having been a working student in a couple of...After having been a working student in a couple of different situations in VA and SC, one big thing I would pass on to future WS (and their families) is this: it is work, but it is not a job. It is education. Do you expect a university to provide free housing and insurance? No, but it is required and you budget appropriately for it. <br /><br />I have been lucky that all my positions included room and board for me and one horse. My first position, yes my parents funded. Others offered a stipend. Part of that was I researched available positions that fit what I could do. <br /><br />This is why I am no longer a WS, or a perpetual college student (much as I'd like to be a career student...) It is education toward a career, not a career in itself.<br /><br />Good luck, and I hope you find someone that fits well in your program. Few things worth doing are easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-56776883210906898772011-11-24T11:56:59.453-05:002011-11-24T11:56:59.453-05:00Maybe he should just start a labor camp! Oh wait t...Maybe he should just start a labor camp! Oh wait they do feed people at those and give them a bed roll!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-69733160995198002312011-11-24T11:54:31.334-05:002011-11-24T11:54:31.334-05:00Many of the riders at Boyd's level do charge f...Many of the riders at Boyd's level do charge for the working student experience, some even more so. Assuredly, it IS a great experience for someone that has the means to take it... If you can't, sigh a wistful sigh and scroll past.<br /><br /><br />That said, "Big Fan," would you consider pasture board for two charming, easy-keeping geldings? LOL!Now Thats A Trot!https://www.blogger.com/profile/04520915591652905807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-9315472984419046012011-11-24T11:54:17.730-05:002011-11-24T11:54:17.730-05:00Wow work 6 to 7 days a week with hard labor and ge...Wow work 6 to 7 days a week with hard labor and get lessons in return. I don't think so. It would be a better idea to actually have a paying job board your horse and jusy pay for lessons. People actually do have to eat and have a place to sleep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-72713865922533456652011-11-24T10:32:52.602-05:002011-11-24T10:32:52.602-05:00I live in Aiken and have a nice place. I can't...I live in Aiken and have a nice place. I can't fathom how it could cost $50 a day in pure expense to keep horse here. My horses get Cavalor feed, I import my hay from up north, they are on the very best supplements, in matted stalls with large field turn out and my vet and others frequently tell me my horse are in the best condition of all they see here. It costs me less than $500 a month including the farrier, even if I factor in my farm payment.......<br />If Sara Siegel would like to put a contact that I could reach her, I would be happy to see if I could help her out with free or very low cost accomadations for her hard earned stay in Aiken.Big fan of Boyd's but just sayin'noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5451839911188950941.post-24129922870398200182011-11-24T09:58:08.680-05:002011-11-24T09:58:08.680-05:00Could a mom who has groomed, care for (including r...Could a mom who has groomed, care for (including rehabilitating) and trailed her daughter's horses for 5 years apply?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com