Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Position Available: Working Student for Boyd Martin

The Farm in Aiken

Want to spend the winter in Aiken, South Carolina
in the heart of the high-performance eventing scene?
Boyd has an opening for a working student!


This is a temporary position, beginning January 1, 2012 and ending March 25, 2012, with the possibility of an extension for the right individual. The ideal candidate for must be enthusiastic about working extremely long hours, six to seven days per week. The work is hard, and consists of stall cleaning, grooming horses, tacking and untacking horses, and general barn and farm clean-up. However, the hardworking individual will have unlimited opportunities for learning horsemanship and riding of the highest quality from Boyd and his crew.

Boyd trains out of Ilene Boorman's beautiful farm in Aiken, SC, which is part of the prestigious Bridle Creek equestrian development. The farm provides the perfect setting for intense training of horse and rider by boasting amenities such as a brand new jump field, a large riding ring with excellent footing for flat work and nearby cross-country schooling obstacles. The barn is gorgeous and the spacious turn-out fields are second to none. The surrounding development has endless trails for hacking and fitness work.

Barn Interior

The candidate for this position may bring one or two horses at a cost of $35 per day, per horse. Shared housing is available at an affordable cost.

In exchange for hard work, the working student will receive training in the form of dressage lessons from Caitlin Silliman and Boyd Martin and jumping lessons from Boyd Martin. The candidate will also gain valuable knowledge about the highest levels of horsemanship by working day-to-day alongside Boyd and his staff in the barn.

Interested individuals should contact Lindsey Taylor at lindseyktaylor@yahoo.com. Please send a resume or description of previous work and/or riding experience.

65 comments:

  1. LOL If I weren't working for Nina this winter, or in grad school in Augusta I would totally be the first applicant in!!!

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  2. If I didn't have to eat, wear clothes, have a warm place to sleep I would be the first one to sign up. You should just put, if you are well to do with no responsibilities or young trust fund kid send in your application. For real, you don't even give the person a place to sleep, yet ask them to work long days 7 days a week just for the privileged to be near you??? Obviously all the generosity of those that have helped you along the way has very quickly fleeted your memory. I don't mean to be rude but I am sorry I am a hard working, horse loving, eventer aspiring individual who would love the opportunity to train with the best but don't have thousands to throw at insanely high boarding, with no pay to even feed, cloth and house myself. It is SO sad that opportunities like these are only offered to the elite and rich.

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  3. Here is the basic deal Amy....

    It costs me about $50 per day to keep a horse in Aiken (Rent of farm, feed, hay, insurance , staff, accommodation, etc).

    That means I pay about $15 per day to keep students horse. You pay $35 per day.

    Then the deal is that you work off your lessons. Working students receive around $350-$400 worth of lessons per week.

    So the basic idea is that you pay for your horses expenses, and work off your lessons.

    If you think this is unfair, then this job is not for you.

    Boyd

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  4. Affordable shared housing? Any specific price per month?

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  5. is their any minimum age? I am 16 and would love the chance!

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  6. I didn't say it was unfair I said it was impractical for the every day person to afford such an opportunity. You are very right this job is not for me. I am a wife and mother of young children and I scrape every extra dollar I have to train with great trainers. So paying in horse boarding what I pay in my mortgage payment for a 15 acre farm is so far out of my realm of reality. I was just trying to make a point and unfortunately out of frustration. I am sorry for the way I worded my last comment. I am sure there are those out there than can afford this opportunity and they will be a better rider and horseman because of it.

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  7. Are you required to bring a horse, and is there an age requirement? I'm only 16 but would definitely be interested.

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  8. I wish i were rich..

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  9. WOW, didnt realize a posting for a "working student" would draw out such venom. Jealousy brings out other horrible emotions. Most people work their butts off, suffer through a lot to get to where they are. Everybody pays their dues in one way or another. I applaud the Martins for creating postions for people to learn valuable lessons, not only in riding, but also in horsemanship and the very important quality of giving back to the equestrian world. If you dont like the way that the offer is presented, dont apply, no one is holding a gun to your head. But why on earth would you feel the need to bash people who have done nothing but good for eventing? No, it really does not sound like you would be good for that position in more ways than one. I dont think that you would learn anything at all.
    Juanita McDonnell

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  10. I was a working student and gave up alot to do it for the chance to learn and be able to carry on the education that you receive when being in a program with riders and horses of this quality! You don't have to be "rich" or have a trust fund you just have to dedicated and be able to do with out for things you want! It's a great opportunity and anyone that can do it should! You will have tools for the rest of your life that you will never forget!

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  11. I'm not bashing, but how on earth are you supposed to pay for housing for yourself and your horse WITHOUT help, if you are working 6 to 7 days a week, "long hours" at that? It's not possible, unless one has substantial savings to draw upon. It's a shame. Best of luck with the position...I truly hope this is someone's dream come true and the arrangement works out for both parties.

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  12. It irks me to no end when people say that WS positions are only for the "elite" and "well to do." Has no one read Denny's "How Good Riders Get Good"?

    This is a subject dear to my heart, as I feel very strongly that if you want something bad enough you make the changes in your life necessary to have it. I understand that extenuating circumstances do not allow everyone to pursue a career in horses, but really... changes can still be made. I live hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck to keep my horse and while I am by no means well to do I would live like this for the rest of my life if it meant I could achieve my goals.

    If I were stupid, I would apply for this position yesterday and pray to the eventing gods that Boyd accepted it. However I realize that I am not in a position to take a WS yet, and so I have been planning for the last few months a cross country move to live with my parents in North Carolina for a year, save money, train with as good of a trainer as I can find, get my horse and I more experience and THEN venture out into working student land. This is something I WANT. I WANT to muck stalls for less than minimum wage because I WANT to become an Advanced event rider and I WANT the experience of training under a person whom I admire and respect.

    Don't take my words as disrespect. It's just a very sore subject for me when people find it necessary to share their disdain for those who can provide for themselves in a working student position. It is the hungry and hard working that buckle down and serve their time. Please take the time that you have wasted being negative and try to see things from others' perspectives.

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  13. 1) They said this was a temporary position-3 months. We're not talking a very long time here.

    2) In a VERY rough estimate, I just came up with $3500-$4000 as the cost for this stint if you brought one horse. This INCLUDES bit extra for entry fees to events/food/etc... No, this may not be the job for everyone (working student positions never are), but to say it can't be done without help is downright lazy and unimaginative. How unreasonable is it to save 3-4k over the course of a year or two for a youngish single person without dependents? I work full time as a barn manager, and have been picking up odds and ends after-hours jobs for the last 8 months to hopefully save for a quick trip down to Aiken this winter to compete. Can you body clip? farm sit? Exercise ride? Braid? Hand walk or graze a stall-rested horse? Sell old tack? Find ways to cut back expenditures? Each dollar counts.

    Unfortunately not all of us are well funded, its true. But some of us make it work anyway. If you can't, please keep your downer thoughts to yourself and let the rest of us work our butts off to make our goals happen.

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  14. I must say I can agree with both sides about the price. I'm a college student who works her butt off to keep a GPA over 3.5, pay for my horse's expenses on my own, work off most my board, and try to maybe slow down for a break if I get a chance. Obviously, This job isn't for me, but a lot of people are going to have trouble doing that like me. It's all fine and dandy to work off board and lessons, but if there's no other source of income it's not exactly something you can take a loan out for. I have done many working positions before and to be honest, many of the WS's get taken advantage of. Not saying this is the case though, just an aside. I would give anything to have an opportunity such as this, but heck I can't even afford to have a trainer right now. I know that it's not IMpossible, I just wish it were MORE possible for MORE people.

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  15. ^That's my post above with the anon, I just wanted to say nothing was out of spite if it came out that way. I just wish more of our dreams could come true like this. Just gives you something to shoot for! Everyone said I couldn't have a horse in college and I proved them wrong. [: Tasha

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  16. There is no venom or disdain in me and please do no judge me from one comment you read that I made out of frustration. A comment that I already apologized for making the way I did. You are right I did not take the time to look at it from a different perspective. I only looked at it from the perspective of me and a lot of other hardworking, tenacious aspiring eventers that are in my similar situation. It just isn't a job for those of us and there is nothing wrong with that. There are those that it will work for and I can be truly happy for that person. They will be the better for it. If you spent a day in my shoes you would see I am one of the most hard working people and someone who will do what ever I have to do to make my dreams come true though never at the expense of those I love. Tasha put it better than I and made the point I was trying to make better than I. Once again I am sorry the way I worded my original comment and it was said out of frustration and should have not been posted.

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  17. Are twelve year olds allowed to apply???

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  18. Amy-You're good people. I think there are so many of us working our butts off, and sometimes it starts to feel lonely and hopeless. But then situations like this come up, and we find out there are many others just like us, walking in our shoes, just trying to make things work the best they can. One thing I have to believe is that there are many, many different routes to take to becoming a better horseperson, and being a WS is just one of them.

    Sorry, Boyd, for highjacking your blog!

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  19. As the mother of a young eventer, I have worked hard to support my daughter's eventing dreams with passion and will continue to do so until the day I die -in part because of the example Boyd has set.
    Like most worthy things in anyone's life, it takes a village to achieve any level of mastery in eventing. You never "make it" alone, but you have to show commitment in the pursue of your eventing dreams so as to inspire your family, your peers, your friends, your neighbors, etc..., to contribute a drop of water into the river that carries your dreams. Every drop counts and, like Boyd has done at every opportunity, you should be humble and acknowledge those who contributed to your opportunities. What Boyd is offering to an eager youngster (yes, this is not for a middle age mom like me) is not just a drop but a stream of the freshest water the mountains of eventing can offer. Boyd is just giving back to the sport by offering an opportunity similar to the ones he got from Heath Ryan and Phillip Dutton.
    The way I see it, Boyd's parents sacrificed a great deal to help him become the extraordinary rider and person that he is (not the least, having him thousands of miles away.) Also, I cannot think of any top dressage rider who, like Silva, has done more to help her husband achieve his eventing dreams and, in the process, contributed more to the world of eventing at large in the USA. The fact that all of them did it with a smile is only a testament to their character. But Boyd still had to work his butt.
    With all the help he got (and his natural talents) Boyd would have succeeded in any endeavor. We are just lucky he chose to put all his might into being an eventer and he is offering his resources to help others fulfill their own eventing dreams.
    Maria, Michigan

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  20. yeah, sorry for the hi-jacking Martins, just irks me to no end when people find a great opportunity, realize it isnt for them bc of THEIR circumstances and then have to bash the person who is offering it.
    Amy, I realize I dont know you other than this blog and vice versa. I am not able to take this opportunity and run with it either, being middle aged, out of shape and working hard to keep my own farm and horses going. But there was a time that I was able to take advantage of such things and worked my butt off. I had nothing. But I took out a personal loans, worked extra in addition to what I was doing in my position (braiding, cleaning tack, hand walking horses, grooming....even cleaning out dog kennels) so that I could learn. I was an event rider and worked in a saddlebred barn for awhile bc I knew that I could learn something from them even if it was how I DIDNT want to be. I am glad that you realized that your comments did not come across well and apologized. But realize that comments such as that, just like spoken words, once out there, can not be taken back. And eventers have enough problems with our sport in the public eye with out people from inside 'hating' on it and the competitiors.
    OK, done, wont make any more comments...pinky swear.
    Juanita McDonnell

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  21. "$350-$400 worth of lessons per week" that cost nothing but the instructor's time and attention.

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  22. As the father of dedicated eventer who was a Working Student, I can testify that this is an opportunity for a young and hardworking person to see what it’s like on the “inside”. Also, as it is with most worthy goals, it is neither easy nor inexpensive; however, the time and effort spent creates an excellent experience to determine if this is the road that a young person may wish to pursue. - Bill

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  23. $1067 per month for a self-care stall, the working student provides all feed and bedding and does all feeding and stall cleaning?

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  24. Amy, you have a 15 acre farm, resources to event, AND 3 kids! Grow up already. Those were all YOUR choices, and you have quite a lot in life. Do you know how many riders out there would LOVE to have a 15 acre farm or a healthy child to raise??? You don't have any right to take out your frustration on those offering a typical student worker situation. I think an apology to the Martins' is in order.

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  25. Get a life people! All of ya's

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  26. For what it's worth, Boyd (and Silva too), I think it's a fantastic and fair opportunity. Sorry to see that some are complaining instead of just not applying, but regardless, it's great that you're willing to open up your barn and schedules to give someone the chance of a lifetime.

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  27. I worked for Boyd for nearly 3 years about 10 years ago. I come from a small town in the middle nowhere Australia and definately did not come from any money at all (my parents would have helped if they could, but they could barely pay for their own food let alone mine), and I didn't even know what a 'trust fund' was until I was about 22! At the time I was thankful that he gave me a chance. I made it all work financially with a little bit of lateral thinking and a lot of hard work. Being a working student for Boyd was one of the best and most influential decisions of my life. He rates among the top 3 most ispirational people I've ever met. He was always very generous with his time and advice, a trait that continued even after I stopped working for him. I'm still learning from him thru his actions and how he handles himself/business/horses. At the end of the day, if you want to do something or become someone you will. And it's opportunities like this that can help make your wildest dreams come true! I hope whomever gets the position looks past the dollars (they come and go in life anyhow) and takes all the skills, inspiration and opportunity this can provide them! Thank you Boyd for helping me to get where I am and thank you for giving me a chance in the begining!

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  28. For such a short period of time, perhaps taking a horse would be unwise, but rather better to learn and apply those learnings later to thine own equine!

    This is a great opportunity! WS positions are unique that it places that person on the inside, a true witness to the inner workings -- the day to day pressure of keeping all on schedule (even when things go wrong).
    How different is it from working(in the real world), the applying those funds to living expenses? to horse expenses? to paying a trainer? none that I see.
    So, for those with WS goals save now for some living expenses and learn to budget.

    I am a professional groom, working 6-7hrs a day is a cakewalk, that allows a LOT of time to invest in ones horse and personal training. Sure, I rise at 3:30am (cheerfully and eager)............and work/play some nights to the last race post at 9:17pm, with 2hrs after cool out.
    Actually, in a few years, would you consider the working retired Boyd?

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  29. You are paying for an education with a top horseman,at a top facility and for crimes sake it almost never snows there either."Working Student" does not mean the instructor fawning over you because you are "special" :/ It means you are paying for _their_ time with your labor and some "ching". It is for a set of un-attached people who live and breathe the sport.Not part timers,old-timers,outlaws or in-laws. : > Tamara Howard TN

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  30. STOP COMPLAINING PEOPLE!!! Everyone should be thankful he is offering this position those of you sitting here bashing it need to get a life!

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  31. Don't think of it as a job, think of it as school. Inexpensive? No. Worth it? Absolutely.

    I'm an adult and if I could take sabbatical from work I'd be very, VERY tempted!

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  32. Wow, what an incredible time some lucky rider is going to have!
    This is a spectacular opportunity and I'd take it in a heartbeat if I could!

    Emily

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  33. Don't you have to pay to go to College or University???? Is this not the same thing???

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  34. Is it possible to live in a tent outside barn for housing??

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  35. No problem....

    Boyd

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  36. "I hope whomever gets the position looks past the dollars (they come and go in life anyhow) and takes all the skills, inspiration and opportunity this can provide them! Thank you Boyd for helping me to get where I am and thank you for giving me a chance in the beginning."

    Well said Kate- I think almost everyone who has worked for Boyd in the past or currently works for Boyd would definitely agree with this statement.

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  37. Sweet lord I never seen a bunch of eventers hate on eachother like this!

    Being a working student is something that, for those who truly love this sport and want to be successful competitors, is is an extremely valuable experience.

    I work for my trainer one or two days a week for lessons... really, I can't get enough of tacking up horses, cleaning tack and stalls, and sometimes standing in the washrack for an hour coldhosing some lame horse... You know, all of that 'fun' stuff, just so i can get the opportunity to ride a cool horse and get lessons without having to get that bill at the end of the month.

    I can't tell you what I would give up to take my horse and train with Boyd!! I would literally sleep out in the field in a box that had "loser" written on the side.

    If you aren't willing to give some stuff up, live like you're poor, then it's not the job for you. If you're not in the position to take the job, then don't do it! You don't need to be writing about your anger with this kind of life on Boyd and Silva's blog... I'm sure they would rather be training Olympians than stress about hateful comments posted on here!

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  38. I see both sides but I admit I haven't ever seen anyone who didn't at least offer housing for their WS. For such a short time and high expense it would indeed be unwise to bring ones own horse I think. You learn more from riding the OTHER horses not your own. I hope the lesson times are written in stone because I honestly don't see where the WS is going to HAVE much time to take lessons. I'm also not certain that such an arrangement is still legal with the labor board from a decision years ago. I think pros would be severely limiting the potential quality of the pool of applicants by making the arrangement so expensive. Just a thought... summerhorse

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  39. I totally love this place and have to visit again this coming December for holiday season with my family.

    Hostel Eilat

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  40. I find it interesting that a lot of the people saying that this is doable are either mentioning help from parents or they are parents helping their children, or they did the WS thing when they were student age.
    There is no doubt that the learning experience is there. I think the frustration for some is that there is no way for competitive adult amateurs, who have responsibilities, to get a toe in the door to learning more. Wanting to be competitive does not mean wanting to give up everything and turn pro, but opportunities are rare for people in the middle.

    No reflection on you or your business, Boyd... just engaging in the discussion. We seem to have highjacked your blog! :-)

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  41. Could a mom who has groomed, care for (including rehabilitating) and trailed her daughter's horses for 5 years apply?

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  42. Big fan of Boyd's but just sayin'November 24, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    I live in Aiken and have a nice place. I can't fathom how it could cost $50 a day in pure expense to keep horse here. My horses get Cavalor feed, I import my hay from up north, they are on the very best supplements, in matted stalls with large field turn out and my vet and others frequently tell me my horse are in the best condition of all they see here. It costs me less than $500 a month including the farrier, even if I factor in my farm payment.......
    If Sara Siegel would like to put a contact that I could reach her, I would be happy to see if I could help her out with free or very low cost accomadations for her hard earned stay in Aiken.

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  43. Wow work 6 to 7 days a week with hard labor and get lessons in return. I don't think so. It would be a better idea to actually have a paying job board your horse and jusy pay for lessons. People actually do have to eat and have a place to sleep.

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  44. Many of the riders at Boyd's level do charge for the working student experience, some even more so. Assuredly, it IS a great experience for someone that has the means to take it... If you can't, sigh a wistful sigh and scroll past.


    That said, "Big Fan," would you consider pasture board for two charming, easy-keeping geldings? LOL!

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  45. Maybe he should just start a labor camp! Oh wait they do feed people at those and give them a bed roll!!!

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  46. After having been a working student in a couple of different situations in VA and SC, one big thing I would pass on to future WS (and their families) is this: it is work, but it is not a job. It is education. Do you expect a university to provide free housing and insurance? No, but it is required and you budget appropriately for it.

    I have been lucky that all my positions included room and board for me and one horse. My first position, yes my parents funded. Others offered a stipend. Part of that was I researched available positions that fit what I could do.

    This is why I am no longer a WS, or a perpetual college student (much as I'd like to be a career student...) It is education toward a career, not a career in itself.

    Good luck, and I hope you find someone that fits well in your program. Few things worth doing are easy.

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  47. I applaud Boyd for being up front about his expectations for this job. If you don't like it- don't apply. That's better than finding out when you get there all the hard things like no day off and long hours! These long hours and no day off is the horse business at the upper/professional level! There is valuable knowledge in everyday care whether you realize it or not.
    I worked for Buck for a month and paid $35/day for all the same work. (I did however get a roof over my air mattress I bought at wal-mart). I still draw on my experiences there and things I learned. Look at like a short term slave drive to learn as much as possible and of course you are paying for it, your instructor is worth more than any Professor you'll ever meet in college! This is the REAL Learn By Doing!! (and I went to Cal Poly who's motto is Learn by doing!) At school I had classes where we spent entire sessions picking fruit or other manual labor that at the time you wonder why your working for free!? Because working is real and you learn from applying your muscles to brain power!
    Seems to me that he is offering this as an intro to the job where if he likes you, there is room to renegotiate the deal, but otherwise take what you learned and move on.
    That being said, he could probably stand to give someone a day off and some space in the tack room to sleep (Buck did do that). The month I spent at Bucks was miserable- hard work and gross conditions. But I learned a lot, got to know Buck, and found it worthwhile. I'm sure Boyd has a lot to offer to someone who's willing to work hard and look for the positive things in daily hard work/labor.

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  48. is there an age restriction, Boyd?

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  49. While I accept the fact that this job isn't for everyone and that the Martins are allowing one very lucky person the chance to absorb some fantastic, useful knowledge, I feel obliged to point out that to call this opportunity a "working student position" is a gross misnomer for several reasons, namely the requirement that the "working student" pays for this opportunity. Perhaps it would have been more accurate and less flame-inducing on your part, Dear Martins, to have called this an opportunity for reduced training board for the right person rather than a working student position.

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  50. Wow people. I don't think this was meant to turn into a giant discussion of your opinions on working student positions. If you don't like it, you don't have to apply, but don't go hating on people who are giving out a great opportunity for some lucky person to further their riding education. We all know the world of horses isn't cheap. I'm not trying to be rude, but if this position won't work for you, keep your thoughts to yourself and find one that does..

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  51. "Big Fan", that is an exceptionally generous offer. How appropriate to read that on Thanksgiving. Thank you! I would love to discuss it with you. My email is Sara.E.Siegel@gmail.com.

    Just an FYI, there is now a thread on the Chronicle of the Horse eventing forums on this topic. This is obviously an issue many have grappled with and with so many varying perspectives, it makes for an interesting and passionate dialogue; I encourage everyone to move the discussion there :-)
    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330271

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  52. Holy $hit....kids today! Nothing is free in life people....you have to WORK! Imagine that!! Boyd has worked hard to get to where he is and is running a business. What a bunch of entitled, lazy whiners!! What a common excuse it appears to be to blame everything on not having enough $$ handed to you....and to take away from others success because they may have had the privilege of some money behind their endeavors. Grow up or shut up!

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  53. Correct me if I'm wrong, Boyd, but I don't think this facility is owned by the Martins... I don't think the board rates or anything of the sort are really under Boyd's control... And he did say he's paying $15/day of YOUR board... If that's not him helping you then I don't know what you guys need from him.

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  54. As one of the moderators of this blog, I am going to ask anyone interested in applying for the position to send your resume & related riding experience to Lindsey Taylor.

    lindseyktaylor@yahoo.com.

    Please understand that we only want truly interested and qualified people to apply for the position, and for everyone to refrain from flooding her inbox with inappropriate questions or remarks.

    Once we receive your resume & listed riding experience, we will then be in touch.

    I'm going to respectfully ask for everyone to enjoy their Thanksgiving & to move on from this debate without further comment.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

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  55. You should just remove all the negativity and start over. Leave out specific details and tell seriously interested people to send email for details.
    Happy Thanksgiving!

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  57. Please Boyd, do not give up your openness. Take this blog exchange with the same calmness and strength that you took the criticisms of your opinions after the 2010 WEG.

    Those of us who faithfully follow you depend on your fresh, heart-felt sincerity, as an antidote to the abundance of cynicism in our sport.

    Congratulations to your beautiful and amazing wife and her young horse on being named to the USEF developing list.

    May next year be healthy and peaceful for both of you.

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  58. A great opportunity, but sadly most of these "working student" positions are illegal under U.S. labor laws. (no minimum wage, no workers compensation, etc.

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  59. U.S. Labor Laws need to be reworked. Mimimum wage and worker's compensation have been a costly item for any business here in the U.S. for a long time. Whenever the government gets involved the costs to do business goes up dramatically and whoever the government is trying to benefit in the end actuallys hurts them. It used to be that you could hire a student to do a job that they could learn from and make extra money for themselves while still living at home. Now with the cost of minimum wage you can no longer hire these students (for whatevenr business you run) and more often than not they have a lot of idle time on their hands. A lot of young people would love to have opportunties to work and learn and the government makes it impossible.

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  60. I cannot believe that anyone would expect their working pupikl to work 7 days a week and then have to pay for their accomodation as well. If it is anything like most places you are unlikely to receive 100's of dollars worth of lessons a week, most likely won't have time to give your own horse the work it needs. What is being offered is slave labour!
    I've been a working pupil in my younger days in 2 different Olympic level yards and received tuition, accomodation and food, worked 5½days a week with a weekend off each month. I also received pocket money.

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  62. Personally, I think it is a GREAT opportunity! Go Boyd & your new working student!! Coming from a 30 something adult, this is a situation I would defiantly sign up for. At my age, I have NO desire to live with young ones & prefer my own housing. : )

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  63. looking strictly at the numbers....
    Lessons with Boyd = $100/ea
    So if you worked 10hrs/day @ $10/hr (very generous) = $100/day.
    Thus 1 day worked = 1 lesson.
    The position is a good deal!!

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  64. I know this post was a while ago, but man, if I weren't in school, I totally would've signed up! I drive a mini-van, so I bet I could've slept in there, and if I could pick up a small night job as a waitress or something just to cover food expenses, plus I've still got some money saved up from my job last summer...SO would have been there!

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  65. I know this post is old, but wow! What a great opportunity. Maybe when I'm a little older, and more financially independent, I can get in on it(:

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